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No AVP in Germany

Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?

Sega announced that Aliens vs. Predator will not be published in Germany since the game might not get an official rating.
Aliens vs. Predator: Screenshots of the forthcoming DirectX 11 game (10)
 
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Publisher Sega announced that the forthcoming action game Aliens vs. Predator will not be released in Germany. According to the press release the game might not get a rating by the USK (German rating board) and Sega does not offer any games in Germany that don't get a rating. It has also been announced that Aliens vs. Predator will not be adjusted for the German market because the game has been designed in coherence with the Alien and Predator brands - gameplay, graphics and story meet the mature theme. Sega also emphasizes the importance of cooperation with the rating boards and the responsibilities of a publisher of electronic entertainment products.

This development is unexpected but not surprising - given the amount of violence which is to be expected from the action game. If Aliens vs. Predator does not get an USK rating, the game can only be sold to a much smaller amount of people in Germany. This would also lower the possible revenue, when you take costs for translation and localization into account.

What do you think about this? Is Sega doing the right thing? Or doesn't it make sense to cut Germany out? Tell us in the comments.

If you are interested in the topic of countries individual rating behaviors, you might also want to take a look at the article GTA 4: The Ballad of Gay Tony - Carrying sex and violence to excess?







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Author: Link, Riemann (Nov 09, 2009)

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Ar.Pi Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Senior Member
12.11.2009 21:21
Quote: (Originally Posted by Duck)
Non-pc exclusive = console game for me. Graphics and details adapted for lower video memory , it's really noticeble and annoying, usualy shit controls too. Just watch in trailer how player as predator get guided with red signs where to jump, on trees and stuff, scene where alien leaps on you , and you both stuck in fighting animation - in game you probably gonna smash 1 button repeatedly i guess to get rid him down - dumbed down crap for console dumbasses. Also i hate concept "Alien vs predator vs marines" stuff.. should be marines vs one of them... This shit reminds me cheesy stuff like "Jason vs Kruger", or "Mortal Combat vs DC universe", like this, where fat game lead designers thinking such stupid ideas to bring in media world. You can direct me to AvP movie, but everyone who watched it knows it failed hard to be appreciated as alien trilogy sequel


I will direct you to an AVP game, not movie. I know, the idea of Vs, bugs me too. Most of the time it kidds/youtube stuff, who will win and shit.

But AVP was actually an awesome game. It was very versatile and demanded that you use different tactics and approach when you played with the different "classes".

Didn't see any videos yet, so you may be right. I will look for some good users reviews after they played, or just try it for myself before judging.

Dear pcghx_Kristoffer.

You understood my clumsy English.
Thank you very much.

I understood the contents of your answer.
And I understood a reason of stronger dissatisfaction for your Sega.

This is gain for me.

I thank for your correspondence.


lol

Gomen, Kishikan. Its just funny how you "speak"
Kishinkan Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Junior Member
10.11.2009 11:50
Dear pcghx_Kristoffer.

You understood my clumsy English.
Thank you very much.

I understood the contents of your answer.
And I understood a reason of stronger dissatisfaction for your Sega.

This is gain for me.

I thank for your correspondence.
pcghx_Kristoffer Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Administrator
10.11.2009 10:31
Dear Kishinkan,

I still do not fully get your meaning yet, but I think that I understand the basic message.

You criticize that PCGH does not handle the two situations equally. This might be true to some extent but you cannot compare the two situations.

According to the press release we received from Sega Europe Ltd., Sega decided not to release Aliens vs. Predator in Germany because in its original form the game is unlikely to get a rating by the USK. Sega Europe Ltd. also decided that Aliens vs. Predator will not be modified for the German market because this would affect the gameplay experience. In the press release it was also emphasized that Sega does not offer games without an USK certification in Germany.

Although this development is bad, it has been Sega who decided do take this step. Of course we don't think this is good, but you have to respect Sega's decision. It is also something different if a publisher decides not to submit to local conditions than a minister calling for a ban of all action games.

Still the question arises if other publishers will follow Sega and not release their games on the German market because they fear the consequences of a high rating or the denial of the rating.
Kishinkan Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Junior Member
10.11.2009 09:59
Dear everyone in PCGH.
My English might be cruel.
Thank you for being interested in my comment however.
My wanting to say is one.

You showed their discontent in the German state minister.
Sega showed dissatisfaction with USK.
These should be the same.

Do you understand this meaning?

Is my German understood?

Sie zeigte ihre Unzufriedenheit in der deutschen Staatsminister.
Sega zeigte Unzufriedenheit mit der USK.
Diese sollten gleich sein.

Following French...

Vous avez montré leur mécontentement au ministre d'Etat allemand.
Sega a montré l'insatisfaction avec l'USK.
Ceux-ci devraient être les mêmes.

The egoism of PCGH gives birth to new egoism.
Please boycott it when it is crazy.
pcghx_Kristoffer Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Administrator
10.11.2009 09:52
Quote: (Originally Posted by Kishinkan)
Hello.
Dear PCGH.

PCGH had made the anxiety of the thing that minister of state Germany tried to start the prohibition of the action game an article before.
Dissatisfaction is justifiable as the game player.
The game publisher is opened under the command of politics.
The standpoint is not equal.
Game player's precaution and dissatisfaction with state power are natural.

However, you complained about the response of Sega that required the decision of USK who was the conductor this time.
Your acts lacked equality.
Ahead of state power, you are brandishing the whip the Japanese with whom it protests.

Please shake it.
It looks forward to that time.
From Tokyo.


Hello Kishinkan,

we did not want to say, that it is Sega's fault that they do not publish Aliens vs. Predator in Germany. It is their right to decide not to create an adjusted version that matches the requirements of the USK in order to preserve the gameplay experience the game is supposed to deliver.
Duck Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Member
10.11.2009 08:23
Non-pc exclusive = console game for me. Graphics and details adapted for lower video memory , it's really noticeble and annoying, usualy shit controls too. Just watch in trailer how player as predator get guided with red signs where to jump, on trees and stuff, scene where alien leaps on you , and you both stuck in fighting animation - in game you probably gonna smash 1 button repeatedly i guess to get rid him down - dumbed down crap for console dumbasses. Also i hate concept "Alien vs predator vs marines" stuff.. should be marines vs one of them... This shit reminds me cheesy stuff like "Jason vs Kruger", or "Mortal Combat vs DC universe", like this, where fat game lead designers thinking such stupid ideas to bring in media world. You can direct me to AvP movie, but everyone who watched it knows it failed hard to be appreciated as alien trilogy sequel
Yapa Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Senior Member
10.11.2009 05:19
Woah that is some crazy stuff there Kishinkan! not really sure what your on about

I think adults should be allowed to make their own decisions when it comes to content, such as games, just as they do with movies.

I dont think Germany bans R18+ rated movies? It should game then.

If Germany has totally banned the game I bet Australia will do the same, or demand a cut version, too bad as I was looking forward to buying this and supporting the developer, oh well I'll still want to play it
Ar.Pi Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Senior Member
10.11.2009 04:01
Quote: (Originally Posted by Kishinkan)
Hello.
Dear PCGH.

PCGH had made the anxiety of the thing that minister of state Germany tried to start the prohibition of the action game an article before.
Dissatisfaction is justifiable as the game player.
The game publisher is opened under the command of politics.
The standpoint is not equal.
Game player's precaution and dissatisfaction with state power are natural.

However, you complained about the response of Sega that required the decision of USK who was the conductor this time.
Your acts lacked equality.
Ahead of state power, you are brandishing the whip the Japanese with whom it protests.

Please shake it.
It looks forward to that time.
From Tokyo.


Nani?

I need a translation here
Kishinkan From Tokyo
Junior Member
10.11.2009 02:20
Hello.
Dear PCGH.

PCGH had made the anxiety of the thing that minister of state Germany tried to start the prohibition of the action game an article before.
Dissatisfaction is justifiable as the game player.
The game publisher is opened under the command of politics.
The standpoint is not equal.
Game player's precaution and dissatisfaction with state power are natural.

However, you complained about the response of Sega that required the decision of USK who was the conductor this time.
Your acts lacked equality.
Ahead of state power, you are brandishing the whip the Japanese with whom it protests.

Please shake it.
It looks forward to that time.
From Tokyo.
Johan29 Re: Aliens vs. Predator: Too gory for Germany?
Junior Member
09.11.2009 22:23
Quote: (Originally Posted by Ar.Pi)
What do you mean Console game?

I've tried to avoid any news about this game (for spoilers) because i highly anticipate it.
But these are the guys that made the original AVP and also Delta Force: BHD, which I enjoyed a lot.


Ya I would like to see any console do direct x 11 graphics!! LOL!!!

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